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Re: [HD] Songwriter or Finale & Noteworthy Composer

To: jon@jonweinberg.com, Hammered Dulcimers <hdlist@hammered-dulcimers.org>
Subject: Re: [HD] Songwriter or Finale & Noteworthy Composer
From: Kathie Hollandsworth <luraedythe@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:08:04 -0400
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I've had Finale for many years but stopped getting the expensive updates a while back.  For the last couple of years I have used MuseScore, the free program Jon mentions, and am pretty satisfied with it.  It has some things that work easier than Finale (like some drag and drop features) and some things that are aggravating, but I haven't spent loads of hours on it either.  It does everything I need to do for John's autoharp handouts and my hammered dulcimer handouts, and also my church handbell easy arrangements, etc., and I believe it would do lots more, I just don't need it to.  It seems to be UK-based because the default page size is A4 and some of the terms indicate that as well.  But I've been overall satisfied with it and it's free!!  It will import midi files that Finale generates, which then take a bit of work to clean up, but I have done that with some of my older Finale files.


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Jon Weinberg <jon@jonweinberg.com> wrote:
I too am a long time user of Noteworthy Composer and am very happy with it for all the same reasons as Mary.  It's PC only - no Mac verson...

There isn't much notation-wise it can't do although note entry is not as easy as point-and-shoot.  Like most of this software it takes a little time investment and reading the help manual to get the most out of it and learn the little shortcuts that make it much easier to use for common things.  For instance I set up template jig and reel files that have all the settings I like.  For a new tune I only need to change the key signature (if different) and the ending bar to/from a Master Repeat Close or not.

If I were doing it over these days I'd probably look into MuseScore which is free and runs on both PCs and Macs.  I haven't had the time to learn it yet to compare it to Noteworthy but on the surface is seem to have many of the same capabilities.

Jon W

On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 12:19:58 -0700 (PDT), Mary Richardson <stanmary@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

I have Noteworthy and I just love it. It is only about $49 right now. I bought it when it was #25. It allows you to add staves abd adds measures as you go instead of picking a specific number when you start. You can change atime signature and key inside a piece for the measures you want. The pick-up is easy because you can put as many notes per measure and it will make them fit perfectly. You can adjust the print out size so it will fit on a page. I assume the current version has all these features. You get a lot for the money.
It does not have tab for mountain dulcimer. I don't know about guitar, This isn't a feature I need. I just use it to know what a song sounds like and to get a nice copy when a song is written. I'm sorry for being so chatty.

 From: Roland De Fleur <rolandefleur@gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [HD] Songwriter or Finale

Gibboney Vicki asked specifically for the following features:

>>One annoying feature is trying to get more staves on the page.  I want a
 fit to page function. 

**Normal Finale allows you to scale the page or the individual staves, so (if you eyes are good enough) you can get all the music you like on one page.

>>Another is fitting measures on the first line
when there is a pickup measure. 

**The Pickup capability, now that it is fixed, works well in scaling the measure. There is a feature to auto-space the notes in a measure based on Notes or Beats. You can also space the music based on the lyrics.

>>And I've never been able to enter notes
 with my midi keyboard.  The notes jumble into odd values (16th, 32nds,
etc.)  I guess I can work around other "problems" which I can't think of
 right now. 

**That sounds like a quantization problem. Have you tried to adjust it so it has more tolerance of uneven tempos. Personally I have *always* used the computer keyboard rather than midi keyboard mainly because the notation is exactly what I type. It is a combination of numeric and letter typing. One gives the note value the other the pitch. It actually works pretty efficiently once you get used to it.

>>I guess I don't know what I'd be missing if I didn't move
up to Finale from Songwriter.  Maybe not much that I would need.

>>Does Finale support tablature for mountain dulcimers?  (3 lines, not 6 as for guitar).

** I honestly have not tried to do much with the tablature, I've only recently dusted off my Autoharps and began to dream of building/playing a hammered dulcimer. I'm more of a brass/wind/keyboard player :-) Played violin for a while,  So I can't comment directly, but I can check in the program, or you could probably just query MusicMaker's forum.

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